From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1e3f2eac5c026e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-12-22 10:43:55 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!207.35.177.252!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Other Ada Standards (was Re: SIGada Conference) References: <468D78E4EE5C6A4093A4C00F29DF513D04B82B08@VS2.hdi.tvcabo> <657ea3e3.0312172255.4869eae5@posting.google.com> <0cOdndZsZbH6W3yiRVn-gg@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:29:24 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.223.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1072117723 198.96.223.163 (Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:28:43 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:28:43 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3708 Date: 2003-12-22T13:29:24-05:00 List-Id: Russ wrote: > "Robert I. Eachus" wrote in message news:... >>Anyone who argues that "with and use" is eight characters longer than >>"use" needs a better text editor. > > First, let me say that I think "with and use" is a big step forward > from double naming of library units. > > The problem with it has nothing to do with eight extra characters, but > rather with the fact that it is grammatically awkward. You might say, > "use a hammer," but you would never say "with and use a hammer." But in many contexts this immediately raises the question: "which hammer?" (ie. X.Hammer or Y.Hammer?) Thus the with-and-use approach often breeds conflict (apart from this forum ;-) -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg