From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-07 10:40:57 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsrout1.ntli.net!news.ntli.net!colt.net!newsfeed.esat.net!news.clara.net!wagner.news.clara.net!usenet-fr.net!freenix!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: Pascal Obry Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: 07 Apr 2004 19:40:50 +0200 Organization: Home - http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pascal.obry Message-ID: References: <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org> <54759e7e.0402071124.322ea376@posting.google.com> <406EB6D2.8030801@noplace.com> <87d66pyw1g.fsf@insalien.org> <406EEC35.7040109@noplace.com> <874qs0zvy1.fsf@insalien.org> <40714C98.90601@noplace.com> <1073gv22t969q5a@corp.supernews.com> <40729B9D.30906@noplace.com> <1076000ef5oj06f@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: avelizy-103-1-1-94.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news-reader5.wanadoo.fr 1081359657 5016 217.128.141.94 (7 Apr 2004 17:40:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Apr 2004 17:40:57 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.95 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6815 Date: 2004-04-07T17:40:57+00:00 List-Id: David Starner writes: > Or I could go with Ada. There's no standard networking code, and no way > to input UTF-8 - I can't even input it into the basic character type and > process it, not and stay within the standard. (Of course, that's what > everyone does.) Worse yet, there's no standard or even existing libraries > (IIRC) that will normalize Unicode text or sort it in a language dependent > manner. Fine just do it and release the code as Open Source! The problem with the Ada community is that we tend to spend more time saying that this and that is missing than to do the job. Who did most of the Perl or Python code out there ? Now I agree that the Ada community is small, lot smaller than the Python, Perl or Java ones... So we just need to work harder :) And we have the luck to have Ada on our side with its great productivity ! Just do it :) ... and propose it for inclusion in the next standard. Now about UTF-8, did you looked at XML/Ada or XML4Ada95 ? For networking did you looked at AdaSockets or GNAT.Sockets ? This is not in the standard, ok, but it is well designed and maintained. Pascal. -- --|------------------------------------------------------ --| Pascal Obry Team-Ada Member --| 45, rue Gabriel Peri - 78114 Magny Les Hameaux FRANCE --|------------------------------------------------------ --| http://www.obry.org --| "The best way to travel is by means of imagination" --| --| gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-key C1082595