From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-10 07:37:49 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!skates!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? Date: 10 Oct 2003 10:37:14 -0400 Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (skates.gsfc.nasa.gov) Message-ID: References: <3F7F760E.2020901@comcast.net> <3F8035B0.7080902@noplace.com> <3F816A35.4030108@noplace.com> <3F81FBEC.9010103@noplace.com> <6Ingb.30667$541.13861@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <3F82B4A4.5060301@noplace.com> <3F82F527.3020101@noplace.com> <3F836447.1000800@noplace.com> <8746564.sTh3EHsOBI@linux1.krischik.com> <3F8637C8.3020201@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.gsfc.nasa.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: skates.gsfc.nasa.gov 1065796828 17872 128.183.235.92 (10 Oct 2003 14:40:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.gsfc.nasa.gov NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Oct 2003 14:40:28 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:601 Date: 2003-10-10T14:40:28+00:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic writes: > A "critical mass" of users? Ada is still looking for one itself. :-) That's not true, by any sense of the word. "critical mass" means "enough to sustain itself". ACT and other vendors are making a profit, and expect to do so for the forseeable future; that meets the definition of "critical mass". I see the smiley, but this is too close to what many people say about Ada; I didn't want to let it go uncorrected. > Or a "critical mass" of code? There's lots of code out there - > probably more than enough to be of interest to and useful for the > average developer. But its all a jumble of stuff of mixed quality, > etc. Pulling it together in one place doesn't change that. A few > million lines of random code doesn't make a library anyone wants to > use. Right. A "critical mass" of users of the library is essential; that means people find it useful, and will do word-of-mouth advertising. > If it expects to gain some widespread use, it has to be a *good* > library that is well integrated and well documented. I don't think > it could be cobbled together from a bunch of packages found on the > Internet. Note that ACT is doing this "library" thing already; that's what all the Gnat.* packages are. -- -- Stephe