From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a4656a5edc0dab4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!colt.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-stoc.telia.net!news-stoa.telia.net!telia.net!nntp.inet.fi!central1.inet.fi!inet.fi!read3.inet.fi.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Sender: AWI003@FIW9430 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? References: <409F69CB.8020604@noplace.com> <20619edc.0405120909.6ba1a793@posting.google.com> <40A35FF6.9050703@noplace.com> From: Anders Wirzenius Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 06:44:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.251.142.2 X-Complaints-To: abuse@inet.fi X-Trace: read3.inet.fi 1084517053 194.251.142.2 (Fri, 14 May 2004 09:44:13 EEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 09:44:13 EEST Organization: Sonera corp Internet services Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:574 Date: 2004-05-14T06:44:13+00:00 List-Id: "Randy Brukardt" writes: > "Marin David Condic" wrote in message > news:40A35FF6.9050703@noplace.com... > > Lots of people here seem to lack much understanding of or sympathy for > > "Time To Market" - perhaps because they come from industries where this > > is not a big pressure. But you're right - in lots of business sectors > > (the ones that generate money for compiler vendors) time to market is > > *everything*. All the maintenance costs and long term bug problems in > > the world pale in comparison to "Time To Market". > > In which case, Ada is doomed (and we all probably are, because buggy > programs will kill us). Ada is about building programs the right way, with > few bugs and ability to fix/enhance in the future. None of that matters in > the least when time to market is everything. Ship any old crap, and fix it > next time. Or never bother. > > If the world does not start insisting on programs that actually work (and > thus reduce the time to market pressure), then there is no hope. > > Randy. A free (no cost) hint to all vendors ;): 1. Start a delivery project and use the programming_language_for_fast_delivery. 2. Start a parallel Ada project for the same product. 3. Deliver the product from point 1 to the customer. 4. While he installs and sets up his test environment, continue with the point 2 project. 5. Receive bug reports from the customer. 6. Correct the bugs from point 5 and deliver a new version. 7. Meanwhile, continue with point 2 project. 8. Repeat points 5..7 as many times as you see fit. 9. Finally, replace the delivery with the product from point 2. Anders