From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,59ca837bdb66f0d7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!atl-c08.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!pc02.usenetserver.com!news.flashnewsgroups.com-b7.4zTQh5tI3A!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: New mainainer for emcas ada2005 mode References: <1151401891.26534.77.camel@localhost> <1151648096.891831.247230@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <87odwaia4d.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <2251198.LToAUupvMy@linux1.krischik.com> <87wtavhqkr.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87slljhq6u.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> From: Stephen Leake Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 09:12:22 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4oDskWvpx5iQOasyjEYcNibCE7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@flashnewsgroups.com Organization: FlashNewsgroups.com X-Trace: cd4e144aa6942e73ae4a423903 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5475 Date: 2006-07-04T09:12:22-04:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta writes: > Ludovic Brenta writes: > >> Martin Krischik writes: >>> Ludovic Brenta wrote: >>>> Please consider joining the upstream emacs project instead. >>> >>> Sure. But joining the upstream is also an upstream struggle. Ada is then >>> only one minor part of the hole project. For example: In the vim >>> development the runtime files/scripts are only changed when a new version >>> comes out. vim 7.0 is fairly new so it can take quite a while until vim 7.1 >>> comes out. >> >> That is a short-sighted argument. Yes, it takes more effort to join >> the upstream team. So what? The benefits are well worth it. As more >> and more tools gain native support for Ada more people will be >> intrigued and consider using Ada in their software. The upstream >> authors themselves might be sufficiently intrigued to investigate the >> language. Contrast this with separate add-ons that require potential >> users: >> >> - to be aware of their existence >> - to be convinced that they are well integrated in their tool >> - to actively look for them >> - to download them >> - to install them >> - to maintain them when their tool changes >> >> That is the reason why I have joined the Debian GCC maintainers, >> rather than maintaining gnat separately from GCC. And that is the >> reason why, a while ago, I recommended that you do the same for your >> distribution of choice. > > And that is also why GNAT was integrated into GCC, raising awareness > of Ada to unprecedented levels. I plan to join the 'upstream emacs' project. However, it may also be useful, as Martin points out, to have a place to do intermediate releases. The Sourceforge Gnu Ada project seems like a reasonable place, although a Savannah project might be more appropriate. I hope to set up a Gnu Emacs Ada mode mailing list somewhere, to discuss the future of Ada mode, and details about proposed changes. Is that possible on the Sourceforge site (a dedicated mailing list)? -- -- Stephe