From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,27539c823b51b306 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-27 07:05:26 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!148.122.208.68!news2.oke.nextra.no!nextra.com!news1.oke.nextra.no.POSTED!not-for-mail Sender: ohk@daf.clustra.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada vendors and the art of selling used cars References: <3b7fdb8a_2@news3.prserv.net> <3B80FDE0.1020608@___skynamics.com.invalid> From: Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.143.59.98 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@nextra.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:04:23 MET DST Organization: Nextra Public Access X-Trace: readme.online.no 998921063 194.143.59.98 Date: 27 Aug 2001 16:05:11 +0200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12463 Date: 2001-08-27T16:05:11+02:00 List-Id: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) writes: > In article <3B80FDE0.1020608@___skynamics.com.invalid>, Gerhard =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E4ring?= writes: > > McDoobie wrote: > >> In article <3b7fdb8a_2@news3.prserv.net>, "Andrzej Lewandowski" > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Ada vendors, > >>> > >>>Could you please publish price list of your products? > > > > Yes, please! > > > >> [...] > >> I suspect the reason they wont list the prices is because it would > >> probably take a real good con-artist salesman to get me to even consider > >> paying what thier asking. It gives me the impression that they're hiding > >> something. > > > > > > (In particular, all the GPL-but-alternative-licensing-available > > companies don't seem to publish prices. ACT, Cygnus/Redhat, ...) I did > > never bother to ask in such cases, because if the price isn't public, > > I'm instantly turned off. If they won't say, I'm sure it costs way too much. > > This is certainly not exclusive to that set of vendors. OCsystems, > Aonix and Compaq also do not publish the prices of their Ada compilers. > > Don't infer that I am defending the practice by pointing out other > offenders. Agree. It seems that they are just not interested in that market segment where you buy a nicely packaged development kit over the counter and say goodbye. It's a pity. -- Kabelsalat ist gesund. Ole-Hj. Kristensen