From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 19:54:08 -0500 From: Dennis Lee Bieber Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What is the current language profile for concurrent, multi-core, safety-critical, hard real-time systems? Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 20:54:08 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn Message-ID: References: User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 X-No-Archive: YES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.73.117.0 X-Trace: sv3-EX4501qYaazX/w2wXQSzQTbhOJHcOohl05kQ29Q8qKI9OzQ46970HyqlYyiZqK6SCCr9VR51rqUEdzI!bnirExPLSM57WnIePy5ht8M0itHBZfivovhKWa05Wtwqd6YV8tX+CvZV7/gvyqCfU35YzrTSobSW!F7dk7qFHVPSWOYlUTiaRz0Zn0A== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2354 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:47534 Date: 2017-07-31T20:54:08-04:00 List-Id: On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 00:25:18 -0000 (UTC), Adam Jensen declaimed the following: > >What is the current Ada language profile for concurrent, multi-core, >safety-critical, hard real-time systems? As soon as you say "multi-core" you enter the realm of experimental science. For example -- in the four years I spent at GE Aviation, multi-core processors used in flight management software would be run with all but one core shutdown. Reason: there has not been enough experience/study of how multiple cores/cache/etc. affect hard real-time latency (how can you evaluate WCET for a process on core-A when you don't have control of what happens on core-B, which could cause cache line flushing, etc. affecting the timing of core-A) What multi-core processors I saw being used in development were for non-safety critical functions -- data logging type operations, wherein loss of the logging processor wouldn't affect the flight management system; only reducing the post-flight analysis capabilities should there be anomalous flight operations. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/