From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8623fab5750cd6aa X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news.xtra.co.nz!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics References: <40b9c99e$0$268$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> <40BB2B98.3010307@noplace.com> From: Berend de Boer Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1ytTQ6rHPT+a0/lPR1gQmMzkpBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:36:21 +1200 NNTP-Posting-Host: 219.89.117.159 X-Complaints-To: newsadmin@xtra.co.nz X-Trace: news.xtra.co.nz 1086046581 219.89.117.159 (Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:36:21 NZST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:36:21 NZST Organization: Xtra Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:965 Date: 2004-06-01T11:36:21+12:00 List-Id: >>>>> "Marin" == Marin David Condic writes: Marin> Or is it that Ada just doesn't bring enough advantage to a Marin> development effort and it wouldn't show on the bottom line? True, no proof exist for this. Competent programmers write good, clear and maintainable programs regardless of the language (except Perl perhaps). There is no absolute, undeniable proof that using Eiffel or Ada does make this process faster. There is no proof that debugging time is drastically less. There is no proof that maintainance is lower. There is no proof that even it it was the case it matters more than 10% of the total budget. Don't get me wrong, I'm using Eiffel and believe that those languages make a difference to the bottom line, but it is just belief. And even if there were really hard facts, would that alter a lot? Just look at other sciences and pseudo-sciences. Facts don't alter human behaviour. -- Regards, Berend. (-: