From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,757d3d6a4830d6a4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-29 10:18:54 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!skates!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Idea of a new Ada website. Date: 29 Aug 2003 13:14:24 -0400 Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (skates.gsfc.nasa.gov) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.gsfc.nasa.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: skates.gsfc.nasa.gov 1062177388 3257 128.183.235.92 (29 Aug 2003 17:16:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.gsfc.nasa.gov NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Aug 2003 17:16:28 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41953 Date: 2003-08-29T17:16:28+00:00 List-Id: "Stephane Richard" writes: > Here's my point of view on the project parts. > > 1. The first reason I had to want to do this isn't really a new sourceforge > lookalike per say. I'm offering this only as an alternative as far as > project sources/distributions are concerned. Maybe some programmers simply > dont want to go through all the steps and different project management > methods that are at sourceforge. Then it's not a real project. Everything at SourceForge (or Savannah) is necessary on a real project. Small projects don't need all the bells and whistles at first, but they can just be ignored, and will be needed later. > Maybe they just want a place to put their sources and distributions > so others can download them and have a "wiki" or something like it > to keep others informed on their work. That's what Savannah is. The Grace project was _very_ simple to set up; all we needed to do was get ssh cvs working, and set a few admin parameters. I strongly suggest you _try_ setting up a Savannah project before you decide it's "too hard". > a lot of users may also have their own version control system at > home so they can do that part locally and only post a new version > when they see it fit. Also not appropriate for a "real project", where there is more than one developer. I'm considering moving all my projects to Savannah, so I can share them between my own several machines more easily. > 2. As I said in 1. I do plan to offer WIKIs for the projects, > whether they are hosted on the website or not. Visitors might still > want to be updated on a given project they know about. I'm not clear on the advantages of WIKIs vs what Savannah currently has; can you list them? > 3. Without searching in the project tree at sourceforge, have you every > tried to search for a given type of software, at sourceforge. I just searched for "ada" at Savannah. It found several projects written in Ada (some that I had not known about), including Grace. It also found some that apparently are not written in Ada. Yes, search engines are complex, failure-prone beasts. Using a separate web site with different software is not the best cure, in my opinion. If you really want a separate website, just get a copy of the Savannah system (it's all Free Software). -- -- Stephe