From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,28cd155693714664 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-16 07:35:30 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator-sterling!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!feed.textport.net!sn-xit-04!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "David Botton" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Faulty languages and Liability Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 10:33:56 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3D0C7C0B.5000707@mail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26078 Date: 2002-06-16T10:33:56-04:00 List-Id: > It's a pretty sad state of affairs when you are reduced to trying > to force people to use Ada at the point of a gun. I think the idea here is not to force Ada, but rather to put in to the lime light when the C/C++/Java code hits the fan. > If I was sued becuase I didn't use Ada, I would point out to the > jury the results of using Ada on the Ariane 5. Ada performed as expected. I would in fact use this to further bolster the point that negligence is on the developers since _even_ using Ada this can happen, but having used Ada, if they did the proper testing they _would_ have found the error :-) Something we can not say would have happened in C. David Botton "Hyman Rosen" wrote in message news:3D0C7C0B.5000707@mail.com... > Robert C. Leif wrote: > > I was hoping to find a lawyer to speak on software product liability > > It's a pretty sad state of affairs when you are reduced to trying > to force people to use Ada at the point of a gun. And of course > that *was* tried with the govenrnment mandate and it failed. > > I also point out to you that when your house is broken into or your > car is stolen, you're not going to have any luck suing the makers > of the locks. > > If I was sued becuase I didn't use Ada, I would point out to the > jury the results of using Ada on the Ariane 5. You may think it's > unfair, but, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my worthy opponent > wants my client to use software which demonstrably resulted in > millions of dollars of damage and loss. >