From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,539c04254abf1b37 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-02 03:12:47 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!opentransit.net!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: Pascal Obry Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: compiler benchmark comparisons (was: naval systems) Date: 02 Mar 2002 12:12:47 +0100 Organization: Home - http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pascal.obry Message-ID: References: <3C74E519.3F5349C4@baesystems.com> <3C7D37FD.F67F7067@despammed.com> <17247c3d.0202271553.68aaf78d@posting.google.com> <338040f8.0202271819.373f733a@Organization: LJK Software <5ee5b646.0203011129.1bdbac56@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: avelizy-103-1-5-218.abo.wanadoo.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: wanadoo.fr 1015067565 8802 80.13.115.218 (2 Mar 2002 11:12:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Mar 2002 11:12:45 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1.90 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20694 Date: 2002-03-02T11:12:45+00:00 List-Id: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) writes: > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:... > > > When the tool that generates the makefiles is the > > previous run of the C compiler itself, the difference > > from Ada seems quite small. > > Well it is in practice quite large in most environments. > Very few C environments update the makefile on every And this can be said for many points. In almost all discussions I have with co-workers about programing languages features, each time I show on advantage in Ada I got something like "but this is also possible with XYZ language" ! And of course it is possible, everything is possible with every programing language... The fact is completly different. If the language does not have a built-in tools to support the feature then it is not addressed. Because the dead-line is comming, because money, because time... everything that require some more work to setup the environment, tools is most of the time skipped. To goes even farther I find the GNAT -gnaty option very nice. You can write on paper rules about laying out of code and syntax but if the compiler does not check that who will ???? > So in practice, most Ada programmers find this a significant advantage > of Ada over C, but of course > your mileage may vary (after all there is nothing > that requires an Ada environment to have decent tools, ^^^^ C here I think > although there is still something that requires it to > check for inconsistencies, unlike the case with Ada). In theory there is no difference in theory and practice... in practice there are :) Pascal. -- --|------------------------------------------------------ --| Pascal Obry Team-Ada Member --| 45, rue Gabriel Peri - 78114 Magny Les Hameaux FRANCE --|------------------------------------------------------ --| http://perso.wanadoo.fr/pascal.obry --| --| "The best way to travel is by means of imagination"