From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,ab26e93e5cda5b8a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!208.49.83.146.MISMATCH!uns-out.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!pc02.usenetserver.com!news.flashnewsgroups.com-b7.4zTQh5tI3A!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GnatBench (from GPL edition) References: <0c45u3pfughmu7ir3qppv068vpilh22e01@4ax.com> <83f3c6f9-603d-45ea-9653-bd4790f84871@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <3mqiu3pdt12sirmn5dko6mjo1snr3infrh@4ax.com> <52ilu39q6mje4df8csr9odpkick389alh2@4ax.com> From: Stephen Leake Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:28:20 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.1 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q/JbdJFPf91Ey1da7mP24gBOzJw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@flashnewsgroups.com Organization: FlashNewsgroups.com X-Trace: 5d9d247ed8a04e05e48ed24161 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20624 Date: 2008-03-28T20:28:20-04:00 List-Id: John McCabe writes: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:07:30 -0400, Stephen Leake > wrote: > >>John McCabe writes: >> >>I've been tempted to switch to Eclipse from Emacs, mostly because Java >>is better for writing structured code than Lisp; I'm getting tired of >>fighting obscure Lisp code in Emacs. > > Oh no - surely not!!! Don't do it Stephe, who'll look after ada-mode > :-) It will just wither away and die. I think Emacs is headed in that direction anyway. >>(Yes, I know that means I should go all the way and switch to GPS. But >>Eclipse has far more capability than GPS; it's much closer to Emacs). > > Personally I'd avoid GPS. I've only had a little play with it, but two > things about GPS would put me off... > > 1) It's phenomenally ugly, at least on Windows where the GTK widgets > it uses just don't (in my opinion) look right. Perhaps GPS Pro is > better? I guess you haven't seen Emacs on Win32? Not "pretty" by any standards. But I just ignore that - I'm looking for function over form. > 2) Who uses it outside the Ada world? Can you get full support for > Python, Perl, PHP, Ant, Java plug-ins for it, what about ? Are you > ever likely to? Right. That's why I'm considering Eclipse. > 4) It's got a silly acronym/abbreviation, it's too much like GPS > (Global Positioning System)! That was discussed when it was first announced. It seems AdaCore thought the conflation might actually be a good thing, since it would generate attention. Since people conflate Ada and ADA and all the other ADA's all the time, what's a little more? > With all due respect to AdaCore, I do wonder why they ever bothered to > create GPS - surely IDEs aren't their core business? They were looking to expand. And many people seem to expect a compiler to come with a dedicated IDE. I suspect that's partly so they don't have to figure out how to tell some other IDE to run the compiler. -- -- Stephe