From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,ab26e93e5cda5b8a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: John McCabe Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GnatBench (from GPL edition) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:23:24 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <83f3c6f9-603d-45ea-9653-bd4790f84871@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <3mqiu3pdt12sirmn5dko6mjo1snr3infrh@4ax.com> <52ilu39q6mje4df8csr9odpkick389alh2@4ax.com> <8ijtu314uf1j34hc837qkgtgd4lqbr0q5l@4ax.com> <14a29jmecow0p$.1ihl69vqa4s9h$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 8xFrDPbGvE3CA8T+awNlRA.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 2.0/32.652 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20673 Date: 2008-03-31T15:23:24+01:00 List-Id: On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:24:47 +0200, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote: >On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:32:50 +0000, John McCabe wrote: > >> GPS may be a showcase for GTKAda but, on Windows, I don't think it >> does GTK+ any favours. Look at the screenshot at >> >> https://libre.adacore.com/gps/img/gps_800x600.jpg >> >> Does that, to you, match up with the phrase "Same modern GUI >> available on all platforms " you can find at >> https://libre.adacore.com/gps/main.html? To me the answer is plainly >> no - that's the sort of GUI you'd be unlucky to get on Windows 3.1! > >Hmm, I don't see that. Do you mean ugly window decoration elements and >cheap icons? Well yes, but I'm not sure about "cheap" icons. Many of the icons are (I would say) better than what you would expect from MS tools, but they just don't really fit - the whole GTK+ thing is still, to me, not quite right on MS Windows. >Because otherwise GPS just follows MS Visual Studio design. The layout does follow the MS VS design, the look though is of a rather old version of MS VS, perhaps version 2.0 or 4.0 from the mid-90s. >The decorations can be changed using a GTK+ RC file. I wonder why AdaCore >didn't do that. >But where AdaCore took time and didn't copy from MS, GPS looks pretty good. >For example, graphical indication of error locations left of the editor >window is a great idea. Do you mean the bit where the space is used to provide a representation of the whole file, a rectangle moves up and down to show which part of the file you're currently viewing, and red blocks show where the error is? That's interesting, but have you seen how the errors and warnings are shown in Eclipse! >IMO the problems with GPS lie elsewhere. I mean poor design of GTK+ and >GDB. I'm sure GPS is a perfectly capable tool and is better than nothing (the whole concept of an IDE that can be used to manage your projects is quite an advancement from what went before). I don't have any real gripes with functionality, just form. It seems like AdaCore have put a fair amount of effort into something that is ever so slightly pointless!