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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Parameterised 'Image Attributes
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 11:43:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ubsn75$1a024$2@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ubsf4e$19bvo$1@dont-email.me>

On 2023-08-20 09:25, Randy Brukardt wrote:

> Additionally, one ends up with a magic mechanism that only the compiler can
> use. That *never* is a good idea.

A better idea would be to improve the language to remove need in magic, 
but that is *never* a good idea either! (:-))

> Attributes do not allow named parameters outside a few special cases, and
> *never* allow reordering of parameters. Does that need to change, too?

Elementary! Attribute is just an alternative syntactic form of a 
subroutine call. There is no reason why attribute should be limited to 
look like FORTRAN IV! (:-))

> 'Image is convinient for integer and enumeration output, and one can format
> them in the rare case where that is necessary. But it is useless for float
> output -- manual reformatting the output of 'Image would round the results
> incorrectly.

Which is why Float 'Image must have parameters!

> Ada has few built-in facilities because it's primary purpose is to support
> the development of proper ADTs. Ease of writing is not a goal at all, and in
> most cases, the extra text is valuable to compilers and tools (even if it is
> not so valuable to human readers).

How is this related to attribute 'Image lacking necessary parameters? 
Why generic function having such parameters is OK, while 'Image with 
same parameters is not?

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-20  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-18  7:18 Parameterised 'Image Attributes Rod Kay
2023-08-18  8:25 ` Luke A. Guest
2023-08-19  9:14   ` J-P. Rosen
2023-08-19 10:03     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-19 11:45       ` Luke A. Guest
2023-08-19 11:56       ` J-P. Rosen
2023-08-19 13:01         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-19 15:27     ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2023-08-20  7:53       ` G.B.
2023-08-20  9:27         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-21 23:11           ` Randy Brukardt
2023-08-21 23:37           ` Randy Brukardt
2023-08-22  7:38             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-19 16:49     ` moi
2023-08-20  7:25       ` Randy Brukardt
2023-08-20  9:43         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2023-08-21 23:34           ` Randy Brukardt
2023-08-22  8:13             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-23 10:20               ` Stephen Davies
2023-08-23 16:16                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-24 19:59                   ` Stephen Davies
2023-08-25  7:26                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-25  9:04                       ` Stephen Davies
2023-08-25 13:02                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-28  9:18                           ` Stephen Davies
2023-08-28 10:58                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-28 15:42                               ` Stephen Davies
2023-08-28 16:09                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-28 17:33                                   ` G.B.
2023-08-28 19:08                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-28 17:58                               ` Niklas Holsti
2023-08-28 19:08                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-09-07  1:04                               ` Randy Brukardt
2023-09-07  9:01                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2023-08-18 18:53 ` Keith Thompson
2023-09-23 10:00 ` Rod Kay
2023-09-26  5:47   ` Vadim Godunko
2023-09-26 10:15     ` Rod Kay
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