From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-17 15:30:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!lnsnews.lns.cornell.edu!paradoxa.ogoense.net!sn-xit-04!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Development process in the Ada community Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 17:30:16 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3CB94312.5040802@snafu.de> <4519e058.0204150645.62003096@posting.google.com> <4519e058.0204170829.23915c65@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3719.2500 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22682 Date: 2002-04-17T17:30:16-05:00 List-Id: Ted Dennison wrote in message <4519e058.0204170829.23915c65@posting.google.com>... >Fair enough. You folks certianly know way more about staying afloat as >an Ada vendor than I can pretend to. However, I think its fair to say >that no Windows bindings can have any hope of becomming the "standard" >Ada Windows bindings so long as they are kept proprietary to one >vendor, no matter how wonderful they (bindings and/or vendor) may be. Not really true. Remember something you said yesterday: > 1) It is distributed with every appropriate compiler (either by fiat or agreement). We did everything we could to make that happen. Indeed, the Claw Introductory version is distributed with Rational Apex for Windows, and Dave Wood was planning to do so with ObjectAda as well (but he left Aonix before it actually happened). It isn't really possible to include it with GNAT, unfortunately (we would have to GMGPL the Intro. version, which I won't do; I'd be more likely to use a FreeBSD license if we're going to give it up anyway). We negotiated with several vendors to include the full version, but we couldn't agree on a maintenance (support) price -- it had to be enough to be able to fix bugs and continue development, given no further license sales. (If we had succeeded with that, no one would need to buy it individually, because they would have it with the compiler. Thus, the support fees would be the only revenue, and that meant that they had to be fairly high. So it never made economic sense, I fear.) Randy Brukardt.