From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,912597791e813f68 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-23 09:07:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!skates!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula Date: 23 Jan 2003 12:06:10 -0500 Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (skates.gsfc.nasa.gov) Message-ID: References: <3E171612.E4E2972@t-online.de> <3E296128.4183B70A@t-online.de> <3E2C7C94.9D7ED14@t-online.de> <3E2DC1D4.3407E094@t-online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.gsfc.nasa.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: skates.gsfc.nasa.gov 1043342310 10 128.183.235.92 (23 Jan 2003 17:18:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.gsfc.nasa.gov NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Jan 2003 17:18:30 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:33381 Date: 2003-01-23T17:18:30+00:00 List-Id: Alfred Hilscher writes: > Stephen Leake schrieb: > > > > Alfred Hilscher writes: > > Just for comparison, what are the costs for the Modula tools, and what > > $1500 - $2500 > > > support do you get for that cost? > > Less. Less than what? ACT? > But - what support is neccessary? The language - one should know. Subtle points about the language implementation on this processor and runtime; essential. > Immediate error corrections - not neccessary if a workaround is > available. A toolset with very less bugs - expected. > > > GNAT for embedded x86 can be had for free, > > ??? I never seen it. As far as I know, this is only available for > GNATPRO customers. Get the source from any gcc mirror, configure it as a cross compiler, and compile. No problem. > Which runtime? There are many that the gcc compiler supports; VxWorks, RTEMS, lots more (I don't have the list handy; read the source). > The requirement is HC11/HC12/8051, I think these are 8 bit machines; you won't get Ada for them. > TLCS900,Infineon C166 I have not heard of these. Check the gcc source to see if it supports them; look in config.guess. > > if you are willing to work without formal support. > > Where? How? I'm very interessted in. You have to be willing and able to read the sources (Makefiles, weird shell scripts) and documents (often out of date). But it is possible. -- -- Stephe