From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,53c5fea49e77990c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-30 22:21:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "William J. Thomas" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Dot Net ? Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 01:19:52 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:21909 Date: 2002-03-31T01:19:52-05:00 List-Id: We'll I would like to thank all of the Ada vendors for replying, I can see that the future of Ada on the PC is in good hands (as it's always been). Thank God I earn my paycheck using Ada on embedded systems. I will just have to be content knowing that Ada has found her nitch market in safety critical systems, large complex weapon systems, and a few mission critical commercial efforts. As for serious PC Windows development (for things like lab support and test software) I'm afraid that C# is rapidly winning my heart. The company I work for is undergoing a serious process improvement effort, we are standardizing on a great many things (thank God one of the things is Ada95 for embedded systems, C comes in a rare second and only when Ada is not available). We are also trying to standardize on the languages used for future test equipment software development (this type of software is GUI intensive, and makes extensive use of fancy I/O cards). Many of the software engineers involved in the standardization effort would love to use Ada even for this class of applications, but when push comes to shove Ada can't hold a candle to any of the other languages coupled with their GUI environments. The MS Visual Studio supported languages can't be beat for their level of integration into the underlying OS and almost every I/O board on the market comes with drivers/APIs for their products. You can't ask an Ada zealot (in his right mind) to strap on one of the existing PC native Ada compilers (with its inferior Windows GUI development environment), have him walk into the current market place and expect him to compete against the likes of ordinance the competition will bring to bear on the same class of problems. That is the reality of the situation, believe me I love Ada (spent my 1st honeymoon at the 2nd International Ada Tech conference, gee maybe that's one of the reasons I had to have a second honeymoon), but in the area of serious PC Windows based development the vendors have fallen short of the mark. And from the responses I received on this posting I can see that the vendors are not doing much (if anything at all) to rectify this situation. You'll have to excuse me, I thing I hear the System.Windows.Forms namespace calling me. WJT