From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,aef4913dd6741a38 X-Google-Thread: 113ae9,aef4913dd6741a38 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid113ae9,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.xsnews.nl!83.128.0.11.MISMATCH!news-out1.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!bandi.nntp.kabelfoon.nl!news.agarik.com!teaser.fr!news.wanadoo.fr!news.wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail Sender: obry@PASCAL Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java.help Subject: Re: ADA vs Java References: From: Pascal Obry Date: 21 Jun 2005 18:48:05 +0200 Message-ID: Organization: Home - http://www.obry.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jun 2005 18:48:07 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.124.249.234 X-Trace: 1119372487 news.wanadoo.fr 909 82.124.249.234:4135 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wanadoo.fr Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11532 comp.lang.java.help:17824 Date: 2005-06-21T18:48:07+02:00 List-Id: HansF writes: > The question was originaly rhetorical - you claimed earlier that the > standard disclaimer was related to safety and reliability, and now you > acknowledge that Ada has bugs (at least potentially), but does not have a > disclaimer, and therefore does not make the user aware of *possible* No you missed an important point in one of my previous message. In Ada, for safety critical softwares, one will use a certified runtime or no runtime at all. Also in safety critical applications only a subset of Ada is used (there is an annex for this and compiler are required to check that such or such feature is not used). See also the SPARK-Ada subset. Of course a compiler bug can still exists and show up in your code. Here testing/validation/proof are important. Note that I'm not on the safety-critical field, so I hope I did not say something wrong :) Others will correct me anyway. Pascal. -- --|------------------------------------------------------ --| Pascal Obry Team-Ada Member --| 45, rue Gabriel Peri - 78114 Magny Les Hameaux FRANCE --|------------------------------------------------------ --| http://www.obry.net --| "The best way to travel is by means of imagination" --| --| gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-key C1082595