From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!homer!news.glorb.com!news-spur1.glorb.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed2.telusplanet.net!newsfeed.telus.net!edtnps90.POSTED!023a3d7c!not-for-mail Sender: blaak@METROID Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How come Ada isn't more popular? References: <1169636785.504223.139630@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <3pejpgfbki.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1ic9j6bmbl0ik.gvgqhl1ixvxk$.dlg@40tude.net> <1v9qweobb6xei.z5hdupxed63u.dlg@40tude.net> <788f7mqo6z5y.vpcslak65koq.dlg@40tude.net> From: Ray Blaak Organization: The Transcend Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:57:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.66.252.228 X-Trace: edtnps90 1171047446 208.66.252.228 (Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:57:26 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:57:26 MST Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:9208 Date: 2007-02-09T18:57:26+00:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:08:06 GMT, Ray Blaak wrote: > > > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > > >> It is still broken, because when you remove a connection (non-directed) > >> between two nodes you don't know which of them should/may/can fall on the > >> floor. This information is locally missing. It could be deduced from some > >> transitive client-master/reference-target relation, but we have demolished > >> that relation just before by introducing cycles. > > > > Not really. You program according to a principle of locality of use. Some code > > says "I no longer need this data", and lets go of it, without regard to > > whether or not it is still in use somewhere else. > > The point is that "I don't need the node A here" /= "There is no link > between A and B." In practice it doesn't matter. A can easily "know" it is not using B. That B is still using A is not an issue, at least in terms of memory management. > You are making a jump from resource management to program correctness. An > analogous statement would be: "every computation is correct because the CPU > does not make errors while summing numbers." I am not talking "program" correctness, only "resource" correctness. -- Cheers, The Rhythm is around me, The Rhythm has control. Ray Blaak The Rhythm is inside me, rAYblaaK@STRIPCAPStelus.net The Rhythm has my soul.