From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a073fa836a03b290 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-14 13:54:18 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!skates!not-for-mail From: Stephen Leake Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: [OT] Gnat cross compiling FreeBSD to Win32 ? Date: 14 May 2002 16:45:56 -0400 Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (skates.gsfc.nasa.gov) Message-ID: References: <3CD1FFC5.4050607@qwest.net> <5ee5b646.0205030057.7cb47a2d@posting.google.com> <3CDD3699.2090809@qwest.net> <4519e058.0205130633.478cc872@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.gsfc.nasa.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: skates.gsfc.nasa.gov 1021409552 10456 128.183.220.71 (14 May 2002 20:52:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.gsfc.nasa.gov NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 May 2002 20:52:32 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:24058 Date: 2002-05-14T20:52:32+00:00 List-Id: Preben Randhol writes: > On 14 May 2002 12:55:09 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote: > > Well, I want a _stable_ system, not a _testing_ system. Windows NT is > > a _stable_ system. > > Debian testing is _stable_ now. I've been using it for 1 year. Well, apparently "the Debian committee", whoever that is, disagrees with you; the name is still "testing"! > > for my taste. The binary install from ACT was much simpler, just > > not quite as simple as the Windows version. > > Though it may be simple, you must still recompile all your libraries > like libgtkada asis etc... True, but irrelevant. Are you implying that 'apt-get install gnat' will also update gtkada? I hope not! > > Neither apt-get nor dselect is as 'user-friendly' as Install > > Shield when it comes to customizing an installation. > > Please explain. Well, when was the last time you used Install Shield? On a good package, it gives you choices about where to install it, which optional sub-packages to install, which language to use, which help file formats to install, etc. Debian apt-get gives no choice for any of these. > > I'll stick to Debian stable, thank you! > > Well Testing will catch up with you in short time. Actually it was > sceduled for release 1 May, but was delayed. Ok, I'll get it when it comes out. > > Ok. So I have to remember "apt-get" instead of "dselect". And I'm > > If you have such a bad memory I'm surprised you manage to code in the > first place. ;-) I don't buy it. But then use gnome-apt or some other > graphical frontend. Ok. That was my point; in Windows, you have a standard graphical front end that makes it fairly easy to find things that you want to install; just look in your "downloads" directory, and select the file you want. If I use command-line 'apt-get', there is no such list. If you had started this by saying "use gnome-apt", rather than by saying "use apt-get", I'd be more sympathetic. > Sorry but I have dealt with Debian and windows for years now and > Debian proves time and time again to be much more easy. I agree; for the work I really want to do, Debian is better. For installing packages like Myst and Quicken, Windows (more precisely Install Shield) is better (and not just because they don't exist for Linux!). > When I got my new laptop at work I had a Debian system up and > running with *all* packages I had on my desktop system in 55 min and > *one* reboot. Installing Windows took 3 hours (mainly due to network > driver problems) and then I had to start installing the software > which took about 5 hours and I guess about 15-20 reboots. Did you end up with the _same_ set of application software on each system? I suspect not! You also got lucky with Debian; there are far more network driver cards supported by Windows than by Debian. -- -- Stephe