From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.banetele.no!uio.no!newsfeed1.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!feeder1.news.saunalahti.fi!nntp.inet.fi!central1.inet.fi!inet.fi!read3.inet.fi.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Sender: AWI003@FIW9752 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: AW: How come Ada isn't more popular? References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1169548286.088284.198940@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> From: Anders Wirzenius Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:48:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.251.142.2 X-Complaints-To: abuse@inet.fi X-Trace: read3.inet.fi 1169560101 194.251.142.2 (Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:48:21 EET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:48:21 EET Organization: Sonera corp Internet services Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8419 Date: 2007-01-23T13:48:21+00:00 List-Id: "Talulah" writes: > Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG) wrote: > > > Mind you, I do not argue that there are strong reasons why some project > > does not use Ada - we're talking popularity here. > > Popularity is the key thing surely - the chicken and egg. As a software > manager in a commercial business, I employ C programmers because there > are so few Ada programmers around in the UK. There are so few Ada > programmers in the UK because I employ C programmers! How do you break > that chain? Quality is not free - short term. Quality costs are traditionally split in: - preventive costs - inspection costs - error costs, which are split in: - external error costs - internal error costs Investing in Ada people belongs to the preventive quality costs which hopefully are paid back at a later stage. So, breaking the chain is a long term process which in the very beginning does not produce much more than costs. But in the long term ... > > There are many examples in marketing history of inferior products > becoming the more widespread, e.g. Betamax v VHS video recorders, MSDOS > v Concurrent CPM-86. I guess this is just another one of them. I don't know what "this" refers to. :( -- Anders