From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 08:37:28 -0500 From: Dennis Lee Bieber Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: lol the ada book site wants $60 what ajip Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:37:35 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn Message-ID: References: <094688d3-dd35-4a9e-9800-553882066f6c@googlegroups.com> <2f37ca5f-15c6-4534-890f-e22a99bed458@googlegroups.com> <13543b11-b075-413e-8fdf-57aa3ff00c0e@googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.79.218.165 X-Trace: sv3-74oDNkecF2wmzN52H64izFJSOlcwoCacBPB5cIr9uzDmvn5QM7pDgOCvlMCvhqiSKejJ31Po65GPivn!3d70Q7Hvw9D5jTyPlcnldNWP+zmPDFdo5KqTKG7tZagIpEwA78rtVjKHA/bLMOQ6YEhU+HTxbS1V!QCBS6M+ypBFMvMunZyY0x2fM/fL0 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2544 X-Received-Bytes: 2697 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2801631725 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:31871 Date: 2016-09-24T09:37:35-04:00 List-Id: On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 00:28:31 -0700 (PDT), polymorph self declaimed the following: >If only we has more capitalism We do have capitalism -- that's why Ada (and most other text/reference books) cost so much. The publishers price them to make up the initial cost of printing -- so a book that sells only 1000 copies will probably cost much more than a similar book that sells 10000 copies -- since the up-front cost to edit/typeset both books are the same (author royalties probably don't matter, unless the author was given a guaranteed minimum amount). If it costs $50000 to set up (say $25000 for an editor making $75000/year, and another $25000 for layout/typesetting and setting up the press/binder system, plus $10 for paper per book... The 1000 copies book will need to be sold for over $60/copy just to break even; the 10000 copies book can sell for just over $15/copy and make the same profit. The GPL has never been about "no-cost" products; it's about distribution (if you use this product to make something commercially viable, we insist you provide the source code to others so they may extend and modify it to make something else viable) -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/