"Jeffrey Carter" wrote in message news:3AED8BA4.FA51431E@boeing.com... > Ted Dennison wrote: > > > > >You are saying is that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, > > >Mother Theresa, Frank Sinatra and Michael Jordan. are weirdos. > > >since they are all "significantly different from the norm". :-) > > > > I'd agree with that. The definition fits. The only problem with saying this is > > the negative spin on the word, which is entirely a matter of perspective or > > opinion. But the meaning is dead on. > > Precisely. And it is because people generally associate a negative > connotation with "weird" that I use the word. After all, I'm saying to > 98% of the population that we can do something that they will never be > able to do. Even though this is worshipped in some people, it can still > be a dangerous thing to say. > What you perceive as a "negative spin" on the word "weird" is counter-intuitive based upon the reaction to the Harry Potter series. :-) from www.webster.com (Merriam Webster Collegiate Dictionary): Main Entry: weirdo Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural weird�os Date: circa 1955 : a person who is extraordinarily strange or eccentric Main Entry: weird Function: adjective Date: 15th century 1 : of, relating to, or caused by witchcraft or the supernatural : MAGICAL 2 : of strange or extraordinary character : ODD, FANTASTIC - weird�ly adverb - weird�ness noun synonyms WEIRD, EERIE, UNCANNY mean mysteriously strange or fantastic. WEIRD may imply an unearthly or supernatural strangeness or it may stress queerness or oddness . EERIE suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work . UNCANNY implies disquieting strangeness or mysteriousness . As I continue on looking at "strange" and "eccentric" definitions, I do not change my mind. I say again: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, Mother Theresa, Frank Sinatra and Michael Jordan. are not weirdos *to me*. Based upon your definition ("significantly different from the norm"), , if most people in a set were "weirdos", then they would not be weirdos. I think the definition goes a lot deeper than just normative. However, we have been mixed "weird" and "weirdos", and they are not the same. Your case is a bit better for weirdos than weird. And I certainly respect your right to have that weird idea :-) Peter