From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3e26dfa741e64e5f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!216.196.110.149.MISMATCH!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeder2.news.jippii.net!reader1.news.jippii.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Niklas Holsti Organization: Tidorum Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050513 Debian/1.7.8-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available References: <432919be$0$10539$4d4eb98e@read.news.fr.uu.net> <1126868191.519850.18060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <873bo5jjb6.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net> <1126875543.239666.325290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1126875543.239666.325290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:58:28 +0300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.17.205.61 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@saunalahti.com X-Trace: reader1.news.jippii.net 1126879193 81.17.205.61 (Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:59:53 EEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:59:53 EEST Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4794 Date: 2005-09-16T16:58:28+03:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta wrote: > ... > I think that the only ones who are really hurt by > AdaCore's decision are the SMEs and individuals who want to write > commercial software in Ada, but don't have the money to pay for > AdaCore's (or other companies') support contracts. I am in exactly this position. Of course AdaCore have the right to define the licenses for what they own and distribute. I think GNAT GPL 2005 Edition, as such, will be a good thing for Ada users who accept the GPL. However, I worry about what this move by AdaCore implies for the future existence of a GMGPL GNAT (the FSF one, I guess). Does it make it more likely that AdaCore will reduce their support of such a GNAT? I hope that AdaCore will say something about that, in response to this discussion on c.l.a. I always understood that the rationale for a free Ada compiler was to increase the respect for Ada and the usage of Ada overall, and so build a market for commercial compilers for those who need them. I believe GNAT has succeeded very well in this. The question is if AdaCore now have a different perception, or think that the middle ground (GMGPL) is not important in this market-building process. My guess is that good and successful commercial software products built with Ada are better advertisements for Ada than GPL'ed Ada programs are, from the point of view of potential buyers of Ada compilers, because such products show that using Ada can be profitable. It is understandable and acceptable that AdaCore want some of that profit, but the current entry price is too high at least for me. Chicken and egg, again... -- Niklas Holsti Tidorum Ltd niklas holsti tidorum fi . @ .