From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,fcd0ac136c3a2795 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news2.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:02:43 -0500 From: Brian Drummond Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: USB Boarduino on AVR-Ada Tutorial Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:10:23 +0100 Reply-To: brian@shapes.demon.co.uk Message-ID: References: <4d1d662b-f476-41e4-938c-0564ad90d74e@d17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <8cjl56l69ruae3ev5ntfnjvker3uldlctg@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-Z8UowXOLqdzFHGU2grSFEDdxDhgrH4+o6N6i7LUeXhgL6UkzCbhYpsoQrRzHAj2fkV3eiPjs2f7pm+a!JKor7YTNL9+lbmsM616OyZoEz5JT2SJmsGpqOUvLl1KyOUvfwnHVxM1Re+bBV9h+H2oLWrXYN/uU!52s= X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13680 Date: 2010-08-23T23:10:23+01:00 List-Id: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:16:38 +0000 (UTC), Warren wrote: >Brian Drummond expounded in >news:8cjl56l69ruae3ev5ntfnjvker3uldlctg@4ax.com: >>>The Arduino focus has always been to make it easy for people to get >>>started and teaching, which is ok. But I think they've sometimes >>>"dumbed it down" too much. They don't want their students to get >>>confused by technical details like upload baud rates or I/O ports >>>and pins. They'd prefer them to know that the LED is "digital pin 13" >>>instead of Port B, bit 5 (on a particular chip). Anyway, that's >>>just my opinion- I like to drive. >> this looks like a candidate for an "Arduino" package which contains >> all the renames, so you can "with Arduino" and write >> Arduino.Led := On; >I have no interest in doing that myself. The Arduino folks >have what I consider, a rather extreme focus on "easy for >new students". That's ok, it's their project. Apologies if that sounded like a request! It may be something I can tackle, once the basic tools are in place. >To me, the biggest plus on the Arduino side is the cheap >and easy to use programmers, hardware, "shields" and PCBs >etc. Now, being able to use Ada on them, is just icing >on the cake. Agreed. - Brian