From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,1f00e12fa1e87526 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!peer01.west.cox.net!cox.net!p01!lakeread05.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: David Emery User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Macintosh/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Dr Dobbs dismisses Ada References: <42891b5f$0$31069$626a14ce@news.free.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:07:07 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.249.249.75 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: lakeread05 1116284825 24.249.249.75 (Mon, 16 May 2005 19:07:05 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:07:05 EDT Organization: Cox Communications Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11053 Date: 2005-05-16T19:07:07-04:00 List-Id: Here's a challenge to your university: Ask them to try to measure the relative effectiveness of the two languages, e.g. problems completed correctly by students, dropout rates, etc. Some teacher can get a paper out of it (confirming or refuting some of John McCormick's observations), and the facts themselves would be very interesting... dave spammenot wrote: > Im a beginner (2nd yr computing student) when it comes to Ada but I can > at least give you an insight into what is happening within my university > (Glasgow) > > Just last week each and every computing student was sent an email with > an invitation to a meeting regarding a change from ada to java. The > proposal is to use java as our first language in 1st and 2nd year > courses instead of ada. > > So it seems as though universities may be moving on as well. > >> >> But what about universities ? There is not much display and promotion >> for Ada there, either ? >> (Not to mention the very few projects in Ada on sourceforge and >> freshmeat, for instance). >> >> >>> It would help if other Dr Dobbs subscribers wrote in as well. >>> >> >> Where did you write to ? >> (Shall we need a petition or something ?) >> >> ++