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From: "Jeffrey R.Carter" <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.acm.org.not>
Subject: Re: New aggregates with Ada 2022.
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:30:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <t9h2is$1ckn5$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <t9gir4$1bbuh$1@dont-email.me>

On 2022-06-29 06:01, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> 
> But there is (or shouldn't be) anything special about a one-dimensional
> array (presuming you intend to allow arrays with more dimensions). And the
> "abstraction" you talk about is selecting a bunch of barely related elements
> from a multi-dimensional array.

Arrays are usually used to implement map, (mathematical) matrices and vectors, 
or sequences. Each usage tends to have unique features:

* Maps are usually constrained. It does not make sense to concatenate, sort, 
slice, or slide a map. The abstraction of a map includes non-discrete key 
subtypes, so arrays used as maps are a special case.

* Matrices have component types that behave like numbers. The mathematical 
definition of matrices includes integer indices with a lower bound of 1. Vectors 
are usually considered to be matrices of one column ("column vector") which can 
be transposed to obtain matrices of one row ("row vector").

* Sequences are usually unconstrained. Typical discussion of sequences outside 
of programming use integer values to indicate positions, using terms such as the 
first thing in a sequence, the second thing, ..., so indices should be of an 
integer type with a lower bound of 1. It sometimes makes sense to concatenate, 
sort, slice, or slide sequences.

A language that provided direct support for these abstractions should not need 
to provide arrays.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"[T]he language [Ada] incorporates many excellent structural
features which have proved their value in many precursor
languages ..."
C. A. R. Hoare
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Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-19  7:59 New aggregates with Ada 2022 Blady
2022-06-19 14:15 ` Simon Wright
2022-06-20 19:36   ` Blady
2022-06-20 22:01     ` Simon Wright
2022-06-20 21:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-20 22:18   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-21 23:28     ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-22  9:04       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-23  1:06         ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-23  9:32           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-23 10:53             ` G.B.
2022-06-24  1:21               ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-24  1:24             ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-24  6:50               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-25  3:13                 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-25  8:50                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-27 21:37                     ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-28  5:36                       ` Niklas Holsti
2022-06-29  4:01                         ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-29  8:30                           ` Jeffrey R.Carter [this message]
2022-06-29  9:04                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-30  5:03                               ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-30  8:44                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-29 11:06                             ` Niklas Holsti
2022-06-29 12:53                               ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2022-06-30  5:07                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-30  5:14                               ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-30  8:31                                 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-07-01  5:20                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-30 10:30                                 ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2022-06-30 15:48                                   ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-06-30 16:39                                     ` Jeffrey R.Carter
2022-07-01  0:07                                       ` Marius Amado-Alves
2022-06-28  7:52                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-29  4:07                         ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-29  7:24                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-30  5:00                             ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-21 23:39     ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-22  8:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-23  1:10         ` Randy Brukardt
2022-06-23  9:32           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2022-06-20 22:10 ` Jesper Quorning
2022-06-20 22:59   ` Jesper Quorning
2022-06-21 23:20     ` Randy Brukardt
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