From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,897417b380f5731e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Hyman Rosen Subject: Re: The Next Microsoft? Date: 2000/05/05 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 619690554 Sender: hymie@calumny.jyacc.com References: <8eg37k$15n$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8epkoa$b8b$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8eu0ob$7qv$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 957552412 22690 209.49.126.226 (5 May 2000 18:46:52 GMT) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 May 2000 18:46:52 GMT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-05-05T18:46:52+00:00 List-Id: Mark Atwood writes: > Early C++, you are right. But once the committee started on it, they > could never say no to any seriously proposed feature, so now the language > is too big for the human brain. What are these features that you are talking about? What features are present in Standard C++ that were absent in Early C++? The only thing that comes close that I can think of is the internationalization of stream I/O, and it was absolutely necessary to do this or there would have been no standard at all. My allegedly human brain can encompass Standard C++ enough so that I can use it. When I need precise detail, I refer to the Standard. > Nobody uses C++, they only use either a preferred or a > in-house-mandated subset dialect. Ravenscar Profile. Nyah nyah! You are being ridiculous. Have you looked at Microsoft's ATL class libraries, for example? > True, the STL model is nice and can fit in one competent brain. Pity > that it's realized in such a horrible language. The STL model is a direct result of the desire to write high-level algorithms on fancy containers using the exact style that C programmers use to process arrays, namely with pointer arithmetic. Indeed, STL algorithms apply directly to raw C arrays. STL and C/C++ make a perfect fit.