From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tar-meneldur.cbb-automation.DE!not-for-mail From: Dmitry A. Kazakov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 12:56:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: tar-meneldur.cbb-automation.de (212.79.194.119) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1083321711 16738794 I 212.79.194.119 ([77047]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:119 Date: 2004-04-30T12:56:00+02:00 List-Id: On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:49:18 +0000 (UTC), Georg Bauhaus wrote: >Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >: Anything heavily related to arts is a huge problem for >: "market order". > >(Market order doesn't have problems, it is a theory. >There are only those trying to compensate for some things supposed to >be market effects. I guess you meant this?) > >: There is no good model to reward creators. The only >: known way is copyright and patent law. > >It has little to do with law I think, except for plagiarism. >Law is not a known way for painters etc., because the market >works in a special way, and it ever has. Technically painters sell their signatures. I remember a CNN reportage about a picture, which price sky-rocketed from $100 to 1 mio, when somebody suggested that it was painted by a renown painter. Nobody seemed to care whether the painting was good. Forging signatures is punished by law. >Music market is without ways of rewarding artists? Should it be a market? What sells a violinist of an orchestra? >Writers cannot in general publish anything without being rewarded >in some countries. Is quality of modern literature good, as compared to 50, 100, 150 years back? Can someone yearn his bread by writting novels? (I do not count exceptions like "Harry Potter"). >What else. Software artists? How do the various creators >of software artefacts get their money? >For patented software? >Does Joe Programmer own the copyright of his produce? No, everything he does, belongs to his employer. >: I answered that. Software conrolling a car is not literature neither >: it is a science, which BTW practically knows no copyright. > >Huh? Science practically knows no copyright? >You cannot be referring to anything that has to do with >scientists. Who owns copyright on Newton laws? Well, there are ongoing attempts to patent genomes, though I do not believe that such things would stand in court. -- Regards, Dmitry Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de