From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3885b7fd66a1db28 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-24 16:37:22 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: noone@example.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why is Ada NOT a good choice for a beginner to programming? Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 trialware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 00:37:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.73.28.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1040776641 12.73.28.123 (Wed, 25 Dec 2002 00:37:21 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 00:37:21 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32292 Date: 2002-12-25T00:37:21+00:00 List-Id: On 24 Dec 2002 06:01:00 -0800, billtate@usermail.com (W D Tate) wrote: > How much money are you prepared to flush down the toilet on >such activities as debugging or trying to decipher something conceived >by a kid named Garth? > >If that's appealing to you then by all means take the C/C++ route, In my experience, there are a lot of libraries available for C/C++ that the only counterpart for Ada (often only a binding to the C/C++ library) was, um, "conceived by a kid named Garth". >the >historical evidence points to a good probability that a state of >entropy will have firmly set in by the 2nd or 3rd generation of your >product. Does historical evidence really make much distinction between languages here? Ada makes "you are not supposed to understand this" parts less likely, but it won't eliminate them, nor will it make well designed, named and commented functions and variables. (Ada wouldn't have stopped the original "you are not supposed to understand this" comment; according to the writings of one of Unix's creators, the only thing that would have stopped that would have been actually fully understanding what they were doing there.)