From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ab3c50aebe0aa719 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-21 10:45:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!oleane.net!oleane!nnrp.oleane.net!not-for-mail From: Olivier Devuns Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: An Old Market in which Ada May Play Date: 21 Jun 2001 19:44:26 +0200 Organization: Aonix -- You will be assimilated. Sender: devuns@buzet Message-ID: References: <3B2BF9CD.57D83FAF@acm.org> <3B2D5BA7.C7F6CCC3@linuxchip.demon.co.uk> <9gt1hj$86g$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9gt90e$b99$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: gauntlet-fr.aonix.fr X-Trace: s1.read.news.oleane.net 993145469 24012 62.161.92.253 (21 Jun 2001 17:44:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@oleane.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:44:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8992 Date: 2001-06-21T19:44:26+02:00 List-Id: "Marin David Condic" writes: > Well, if I said "I just ported my code from VMS to VMS!" would you be very > impressed? But somehow saying "I ported from Unix(Sun) to Unix(HP)!" is > cause to celebrate? That's the problem that exists in the Unix-like world > because of the multiple flavors of it. The same (almost) problem exists > porting between different versions of Windows - but at least there the whole > thing is under one roof. OTOH, I never had any trouble taking my code from > VMS(VAX) to VMS(Alpha) or porting it upward in version numbers. Whatever > troubles may have come up were so trivial as to hardly be noticed and > certainly not something to brag about. All I can say is that porting from Solaris to HP-UX is nothing to brag about in my line of work. Processor- and ABI- related issues are a different beast, which must be handled with care. No OS I've seen yet could handle those tricky issues in a really portable fashion ! > Ahhhhh.... If only DEC had made VMS available to the general public! (Oh, > but then, it probably would have ended up in just as bad a shape as Unix is > now...) Well, first of all I doubt Ol'Ken Olsen ever recognized "the general public" as a factor in the great scheme of things. Regarding the shape of Unix now I think we're better off with Linux, FreeBSD etc, than with VMS in the oh-so-wise hands of Compaq. Your mileage may vary. -- Olivier Devuns | Aonix: http://www.aonix.com