From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,677963b1aa23e668 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!94.75.214.39.MISMATCH!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: localhost@example.org Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What's stopping you from using Ada for your next commercial project? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 1fBP04fsPqTkkcvlQyUnMA.user.speranza.aioe.org X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:17989 Date: 2011-03-09T11:42:16+00:00 List-Id: > I don't think Ada programmers are any more expensive than Java or C++ > programmers. I admit I haven't looked into it that much but when I did on a UK site the salary survey showed Ada coders making much more (2x or more) than Java or C++ staff. I'm not in charge of hiring or such so it doesn't matter what I think anyway. > their level of experience does. It is true that Ada programmers tend > to be experienced; either because they learned Ada long ago at > university, or because they are young, bright, self-motivated people Yeah but the guys who learned Ada long ago are old now and companies want young guys out of uni. The uni guys work harder and are cheaper. Like I said they're worth every penny. Nobody wants to pay for quality or experience. > What you say is true in most cases, simply because most people are too > stupid to have a long-term, or even medium-term, vision. In fact, > most of them have no vision at all; as far as technical decisions are > concerned, they simply follow the herd like lemmings. But in the > medium term, the lack of quality in software (i.e. bugs, delays, > budget overruns) can cost much more than the savings you can achieve > with Ada. In this perspective, Ada is a competitive advantage against > lemmings. I agree with you but I'm a programmer, not an accountant. Our opinions don't count ;) > [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming/Installing Great link!