From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b2dc1ee691d4409b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!ntnu.no!randhol From: randhol@bacchus.pvv.ntnu.no (Preben Randhol) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: OT: Installing Debian (was Re: Latest GNAT version) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: References: <1123683679.695932.12540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123687721.246790.27700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1123756284.547833.177350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87vf28tjc5.fsf_-_@tiscali.be> <1124177346.199051.63090@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <15dPe.18613$g47.8770@trnddc07> <1125299887.078048.287300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bacchus.pvv.ntnu.no X-Trace: orkan.itea.ntnu.no 1125313201 27850 129.241.210.178 (29 Aug 2005 11:00:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:00:01 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (FreeBSD) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4317 Date: 2005-08-29T11:00:01+00:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta wrote: >At yesterday's Linux Copy Party, I installed Debian on yet another IBM >ThinkPad (a refurbished T20) using my trusted Sarge net-install >CD-ROM. No problems whatsoever. The user, who was migrating from >Fedora Core, didn't understand why the Debian installer has such a >reputation of being difficult to use. Just because it's in text mode >doesn't mean it's "for experts". No, it is the aftermath I'm thinking of... Debian lacks something like YAST. >Personally, I have never really understood the need for derivatives of >Debian. This is perhaps a matter of taste. I like the derivatives because they use the same foundation (the package system) but they target different areas. Also Debian makes specialised distros. Default Debian installation of X, for example, assumes that the machine is a server. You have to handedit the gdm config file (if you use gdm) to get it to stop asking for root password when shutting down and restarting the machine. I have suggested that one should be able to choose between server setup and desktop setup in debconf, but I don't think it was thought as a good idea at the time. Perhaps I should suggest it agian... The default setup is also quite basic and not so much eye-candy which is good from a server perspective, but less so from a desktop user's perspective. So I think it is healthy that there are derivatives specialising in different areas. I mean I find that XFCE is a much better desktop than gnome (I have limited experience with KDE so won't compare this) and that it is nice that the XFCE people are "competing" with gnome for the desktop and not "giving up"... Preben