From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,3a4656a5edc0dab4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!enews.sgi.com!news.nask.pl!news.man.lodz.pl!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Bart=B3omiej_=A6wiercz?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada used in General Aviation (GA) applications? Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 20:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Technical University of Lodz Message-ID: References: <409F69CB.8020604@noplace.com> <20619edc.0405120909.6ba1a793@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: kujawiak.man.lodz.pl 1084481981 28273 212.191.76.4 (13 May 2004 20:59:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@man.lodz.pl NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 20:59:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:560 Date: 2004-05-13T20:59:41+00:00 List-Id: In article , Lutz Donnerhacke wrote: > Nothing. You can program for our customers in C while learning C++. > C++ is nothing more than C with Classes and the Template Library. It's not truth, don't forget about type checking and save behaviour like 'static_cast'. > There is a very simple, but important fact against Ada: The whole Network > and OS interfaces are written in C. Only a small part of the interfaces can > be imported into Ada, because the major list of system specific constants > are only available as preprocessor macros. It get worse if you need > structures. I agree with you in 100%. And I have other point of view: if someone ports a library to Ada it's usually too old version of library for me :( > So the main part of developing ordinary applications in Ada is writing a > seperate inferface to the system or the network. Nobody will pay for a list > of already defined constants. Of course, you can write a C wrapper in order > to get a interface, but this is silly. You will be expected to simply > include the system header files. So your language has to be C compatible as > much as possible. Interfacing with Ada is too expensive. In my opinion Ada should be move to embedded market (for new boards and processors) because PC market has too old C tradition ... Best regards, -- Bart�omiej �wiercz http://sknauk.wpk.p.lodz.pl PGP Public Key: http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/swierczu/pgp/