From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,60e2922351e0e780 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-12 04:41:15 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!feed.news.nacamar.de!uio.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail From: Preben Randhol Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Clause "with and use" Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Organization: PVV Message-ID: References: <3FA2CDCB.500F4AF0@fakeaddress.nil> <3FACCBFB.9D288CF2@fakeaddress.nil> <3FAF8C99.5040201@noplace.com> <1068561335.260886@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.241.83.82 X-Trace: tyfon.itea.ntnu.no 1068640874 4995 129.241.83.82 (12 Nov 2003 12:41:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:41:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2410 Date: 2003-11-12T12:41:14+00:00 List-Id: On 2003-11-11, Russ <18k11tm001@sneakemail.com> wrote: > And you *still* miss the point, even after Mr. Rosen spoonfeeds it to > you. The point is *not* that redundant "with" and "use" clauses > require extra typing. The point is that the poor *reader* of your code > still has to *read* your cluttered code. And this is cluttered how? > In your reply you did not even consider the *reader*. The *reader* > doesn't give a hoot how many keystrokes you used to generate the code. > All I can say is that I'm darn glad I'll never have to read your > code. WHAT!? Please explain to me how I don't care about the reader? What I was saying is that you do not need to tell the reader in any additional way which package that are used and which are not as the source code is plain and clear. And please explain how you would write. with Ada.Text_IO; use Ada.Text_IO; in another way in Ada95. How do you care about the reader when you are writing code that isn't Ada95 and has to be run through a preprosessor to become Ada95 code? -- "Saving keystrokes is the job of the text editor, not the programming language."