From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,60e2922351e0e780 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-04 02:58:38 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!uio.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail From: Preben Randhol Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Clause "with and use" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Organization: PVV Message-ID: References: <3FA2CDCB.500F4AF0@fakeaddress.nil> <3FA3B412.AF3BEB96@fakeaddress.nil> <3FA6D275.924D5750@fakeaddress.nil> NNTP-Posting-Host: kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no X-Trace: tyfon.itea.ntnu.no 1067943518 16677 129.241.83.82 (4 Nov 2003 10:58:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:58:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2030 Date: 2003-11-04T10:58:38+00:00 List-Id: On 2003-11-03, Gautier Write-only wrote: > They are not always opposed. IMHO with this proposal (whatever form it > takes: "with and use" or "use" with implicit "with") you will gain > in readability _and_ writeability. Perhaps, but I will claim that anything implicit means it is not readable. Explicit is. At any rate it is writing: with Ada.Text_IO; use Ada.Text_IO; is shorter than writing with and use Ada.Text_IO; because one can write: with Ada.Text_IO; and then hit a shortcut which will run a macro copying the line changing with to use and past it to the end of the corrent line. implicit: 1 a : capable of being understood from something else though unexpressed : IMPLIED b : involved in the nature or essence of something though not revealed, expressed, or developed Preben -- "Saving keystrokes is the job of the text editor, not the programming language."