From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,aae01e0853bff01c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-17 03:36:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!news.iks-jena.de!not-for-mail From: Lutz Donnerhacke Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Should MI be supported (was: Can MI be supported?) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Organization: IKS GmbH Jena Message-ID: References: <3F67D0FA.9020506@attbi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: taranis.iks-jena.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: branwen.iks-jena.de 1063795012 20911 217.17.192.37 (17 Sep 2003 10:36:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@iks-jena.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:36:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42609 Date: 2003-09-17T10:36:52+00:00 List-Id: * Robert I. Eachus wrote: > I guess we just have to agree to disagree on this. I personally find > the mixin idiom to be more natural than the view conversion approach. So do I. > But Ada allows both, and in fact several other ways to code the same > example, and we are talking about adding one more. No. The discussion is about adding a high level abstraction which can be implemented in any way. > But this is how it should be. Ada should allow you to express a model > using whatever patterns are most appropriate. If we disagree on which > patterns to use, well that is a style issue, not something where there > is a definite right or wrong. Patterns or idioms usually point to a hole in the abstraction level of the language. > G�del's Proof basically says that any programming language must be either > incomplete or inconsistant. https://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/Fachbegriffe.der.Informatik.html#293 Halting Problem After proofing the impossibility of the general case, the programmer denies to implement any possible solution for important, ordinary cases.