From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-16 03:01:11 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!newsfeed1!bredband!uio.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail From: Preben Randhol Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: References: <3F367B39.8060108@noplace.com> <1060611604.45048@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F38DEBC.8040208@noplace.com> <3F3A33EE.90900@noplace.com> <3F3B89BE.1090207@noplace.com> <3F3D06B6.9030206@attbi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: tyfon.itea.ntnu.no 1061028071 4787 129.241.83.78 (16 Aug 2003 10:01:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:01:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41560 Date: 2003-08-16T10:01:11+00:00 List-Id: Robert I. Eachus wrote: > That more than any other issue is why Microsoft has a monopoly. They > offer the system builders a deal, either $X per system if you sell boxes > without a Microsoft OS, or $Y per system if you sell every "desktop" or > laptop computer with Windows. And X >> Y, so that to be competitive, > they have to sell you a Microsoft OS whether you want it or not. Well this is so for the big computer bundlers. But what kind of deal is it? I mean why do Microsoft subsidice (and also give their OS for free) the bundling of computers? Is it only because they know one will buy MS Office later? I would think it was that if you bundled it with Windows you got it for a buck or so, but if the computer bundler didn't take the deal with M$ then they had to pay some $200-300 for each Windows OS installed on the machines and that would make their prices higher than the compotition? I have noticed that if you go to smaller computer shops and order a computer with the parts you want. They assemble and test it, but you have to pay a full windows license price if you also want Windows installed on the machine. I don't want Windows so I use them if I need a new computer :-) -- �I think fish is nice, but then I think that rain is wet. So who am I to judge.� - The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (radioplay)