From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,38fc011071df5a27 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-29 23:40:42 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!uio.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail From: Preben Randhol Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ideas for Ada 200X Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: References: <6a90b886.0305262344.1d558079@posting.google.com> <3ED41344.7090105@spam.com> <3ED46D81.FF62C34F@0.0> <3ED46E07.4340CABC@0.0> <3ED4F3FD.A0EF7079@alfred-hilscher.de> <3ED4ECFC.5060000@cogeco.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: tyfon.itea.ntnu.no 1054276841 17155 129.241.83.78 (30 May 2003 06:40:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 06:40:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:38036 Date: 2003-05-30T06:40:41+00:00 List-Id: Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: > > Consider this: the Ada95 language is already large and complex. Is Yes, and it does not need to get into a C++ "beauty" contest. What I find great is that the language is clear, not ambigiuos (at least not compared to other languages), well defined syntax. So even if it *is* a huge language, this is not a problem. I didn't understand why the "Ada is a huge language" was presented by others as a bad thing, until I thought that what if C was as large as Adar? In that case I think it would be a problem, but for Ada's case it is a strength. However we do not need to make Ada into a huge C by adding a lot of ambigious syntactic sugar because it makes for better make-up when standing next to other, at the moment, more popular languages. It is better to iron out the quirks and make improvements where it matters and to introduce real and useful additions to the language to keep up with time. However, I do not think the initial design goals/requirements should be tossed. I didn't start to like Ada because it looked like C or C++, but because it made things more clear and safe. That's when the joy came back. -- Preben Randhol ------------------- http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ -- �For me, Ada95 puts back the joy in programming.�