From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-12 01:18:18 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newsfeed.vmunix.org!uio.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail From: Preben Randhol Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304240446.493ca906@posting.google.com> <3EA7E0E3.8020407@crs4.it> <9fa75d42.0304240950.45114a39@posting.google.com> <4a885870.0304291909.300765f@posting.google.com> <416273D61ACF7FEF.82C1D1AC17296926.FF0BFD4934A03813@lp.airnews.net> <9fa75d42.0305010621.55e99deb@posting.google.com> <0-WcnWfafqsNpiyjXTWcqw@gbronline.com> <1051804573.732603@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3EBE9BD4.1050008@attbi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no X-Trace: tyfon.itea.ntnu.no 1052727497 2566 129.241.83.78 (12 May 2003 08:18:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:18:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63563 comp.object:63228 comp.lang.ada:37225 Date: 2003-05-12T08:18:17+00:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > I think this is a perfect example of the blind spot of Ada programmers. > You are so enamored of enumerations and perfectly indexed arrays and > lack of buffer overflows that you will probably miss the most likely > and subtle bug of this kind of code, which is that the Shuffle routine > fails to produce each possible permutation with uniform probability! Well while you are busy finding the former bugs in your software we have time to work on the latter. -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/