From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-27 13:35:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada From: "Eric G. Miller" Subject: Re: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died (was): 64 bit addressing and OOP References: <9fa75d42.0304230439.55d28e70@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304240503.54dbc5d1@posting.google.com> <20619edc.0304240953.221ac70f@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304250448.5107afef@posting.google.com> <20619edc.0304252116.621a4bf4@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304260649.366530c5@posting.google.com> <20619edc.0304261803.5d26f40e@posting.google.com> Followup-To: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 20:35:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.81.242.79 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1051475749 66.81.242.79 (Sun, 27 Apr 2003 13:35:49 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 13:35:49 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:62795 comp.object:62120 comp.lang.ada:36663 Date: 2003-04-27T20:35:49+00:00 List-Id: In article , AG wrote: > "Mike Silva" wrote in message > news:20619edc.0304261803.5d26f40e@posting.google.com... > >> Obviously they're only drivers and dispatchers *by day*. At night, in >> the privacy of their own homes, I'll bet they're *computer >> programmers*! > > Well, no, not really :) In fact that almost always happens in > the middle of the night or wee hours of the morning (when > do you think the trucks get loaded for delivery?) As a former truck driver, I have to say that loading/unloading occurs all around the clock. In my experience, it was as likely to be 3am as 1pm. It really depends on the type of shipper and receiver, the type of "trucks" your talking about (van, refrigerated van, flatbed, container, etc.), the type of load, and the distance involved. There are a number of niches in the trucking world. Also, a number of larger shippers tend to have possession of a rotating stock of various trucking companies' trailers. In those cases, drivers are often not present when the vans get loaded or unloaded. It's sort of an extended warehouse system. Just In Time and all that... The driver shows up with an empty, exchanges it for a loaded trailer and is gone in 15 minutes or so. > Unfortunately, most programmers and/or sys admins > have a bad habit of liking to sleep at that sort of time. > > Which brings us back to the question of reliability: > > - Option one: have a stand-up on-call professional > support with a pager available 24 by 7. Sort of > what fire brigades do [that will cost of course] > > - Option two: have a reliable system with the chance > of catastrophic failure so low that you (or your clients) > are willing to risk it just on statistical basis. The company I worked for ran much of their logistics system off an IBM main frame and trucks were satellite dispatched. The shipper was responsible for preparing the bill of lading by whatever means. I suspect the company had 24/7 technical support (considering they had 24/7 dispatching). I don't think this is unusual among the larger freight haulers... Smaller or local/regional companies may not need such a system if the truck movement patterns are less dynamic than an over-the-road company. I haven't seen any satellite dispatched logging trucks, for instance. -- echo ">gra.fcw@2ztr< eryyvZ .T pveR" | rot13 | reverse