From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,9b30240b5a381bbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-08-23 11:39:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.teledanmark.no!newsfeed1.ulv.nextra.no!nextra.com!uio.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail From: Preben Randhol Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Software Economics was RE: Ada 95 for an ARM-based bare board? Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: References: <3D66792F.F77550E@san.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no X-Trace: tyfon.itea.ntnu.no 1030127961 25519 129.241.83.82 (23 Aug 2002 18:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:28346 Date: 2002-08-23T18:39:21+00:00 List-Id: On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:03:40 GMT, Darren New wrote: > Preben Randhol wrote: >> >> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 07:52:52 -0700, Robert C. Leif wrote: >> > From: Bob Leif >> > To: Tom Moran et al. >> > The GNU approach is essentially monopolistic. The ultimate in unfair >> >> In what way? > > In the same way that people complain about giving away IE for free. Ah a monopoly that contains all the people on the planet. I see. >> This is a very strange statement as Microsoft has released IE and other >> programs free of cost. Of course you must buy their dratted OS to use >> them. > > Well, then, that's the cost, isn't it? :-) They give away their OS for free, > too. You just have to buy their OS to use it. Oh where can on get a free Windows OS? I would like Windows 2000 instead of Windows XP where nothing works. >> The GNU model is different. It says that the source code should be free >> (as in speech) for everyone. > > Not "as speech". Free like free beer. > http://denbeste.nu/essays/freebeer.shtml This essay contradicts itself. >> What will decrease it? > > OK, put it this way. The latest video game is released. Everyone gets to > copy it for free. Indeed, before it is announced, everyone knows they'll be > able to get free copies. How many copies actually sell? How do you pay the > people who did the voice work? How do you pay for the plane tickets to fly > around taking pictures of textures to be used? How do you pay for the food > you eat while you're spending 2 years working on the game? How do you pay > the artists who draw the logos for the product? How do you pay for the > actors that do the motion-capture? > > Now, if you have to pay for each one you use, then the company can > guesstimate that they'll sell 100,000 copies, and charge $20/copy, and > thereby collect $2million before people find a way to pirate it. They can > spend some of this on employees, some on plane tickets, some on computers, > electricity, etc. Exactly the money value. So why not say this in the first place? Preben