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From: lutz@iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke)
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Subject: Re: ada vs. cpp
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* Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
>1. If you mean that Ada has no type to represent the whole set of all
>integers, yes it is true. [as well as it is for all other languages
>designed for finite discrete machines]

man Haskell. (or any other lazy evaluation language with unlimited arithmetics)

>3. If you mean that Ada has no int-like numeric type with an undefined
>   reaction on overflows. Well, is an undefined behaviour good?

gnat without -gnato will produce erronous code. So we are close.

>4. If your point is that a language *has* all types [all programs, all
>   whatsoever] one could develop using the language then well, all
>   languages are more or less equivalent.

There is no equivalent for an oracle or true randomness.

OTOH C++ source is a type 0 language. Ada source a type 1 language. So they
are different.