From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a59300e1cca1082c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-20 01:04:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.esat.net!news.heanet.ie!Colin_Paul_Gloster From: Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org (Colin Paul Gloster) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Safe C++ Date: 20 Sep 2001 08:22:21 GMT Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie Message-ID: References: <3BA7A45D.186EE27A@adaworks.com> <20010919072904.O10277-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> <20010919102107.L4954-100000@shell5.ba.best.com> <9ob2u6$2r4l$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ns1-ext.dcu.ie X-Trace: kenraki.heanet.ie 1000974141 8284 136.206.1.1 (20 Sep 2001 08:22:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@kenraki.heanet.ie NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Sep 2001 08:22:21 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.0 (SunOS) Cache-Post-Path: pike!unknown@camac.dcu.ie X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13201 Date: 2001-09-20T08:22:21+00:00 List-Id: In article news:9ob2u6$2r4l$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu Chad R. Meiners wrote: "[..] I don't believe that you will find very many Ada advocates that have an allergy to anything smacking of C. I have always been under the impression that people on this newsgroup [..]" I do not dispute that there are masters active on this newsgroup who have solid experience to back their reservations. It is no secret though that there are Ada advocates who strongly hate C. Not only C family languages, but non-Ada languages. Of course someone who recommends Ada does not necessarily hate other languages but if you think that we do not have such people you are mistaken. Should you check the news:comp.realtime FAQ posting (e.g. news:realtime-computing/faq_999165253@rtfm.mit.edu , "Comp.realtime: Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)", 30 Aug 2001 09:55:25 GMT, Version: 3.4 (May 1998), also available at HTTP://WWW.FAQs.org/faqs/realtime-computing/faq/ ) you can find: "[..] IV- POLEMIC TOPICS [..] Which programming language should I use to develop a Real-Time System? [..] it would be much better to use a higher level [than assembly] programming language. Most of them will fit. The Ada Community will always try to convince you their language is the best to use in any cases. Here is not the news group to argue about this [..]". Looking back through older posts in the Ada advocacy forum Team Ada one could find furious frustration against C; C++; and Java.