From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,da61dbede39ca9bd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-11 08:04:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.esat.net!news.heanet.ie!Colin_Paul_Gloster From: Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org (Colin Paul Gloster) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ada os newsgroup Date: 11 Sep 2001 14:56:59 GMT Organization: not setting up an Ada OS newsgroup -- do it yourselves, thank you Message-ID: References: <20010911092548.6a773b75.tonygair@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> Reply-To: Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ns.dcu.ie X-Trace: kenraki.heanet.ie 1000220218 19553 136.206.1.3 (11 Sep 2001 14:56:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@kenraki.heanet.ie NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Sep 2001 14:56:59 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.0 (SunOS) Cache-Post-Path: ns.dcu.ie!unknown@camac.dcu.ie X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13030 Date: 2001-09-11T14:56:59+00:00 List-Id: In article news:20010911092548.6a773b75.tonygair@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk Tony Gair asked about setting up an Ada OS newsgroup. Usual guidelines for a new group go as follows... Kicked off with an RFD (REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION) a discussion period is entered which is to last thirty days on net news. If the discussion has to go on for longer it is to be continued off net news. Before these thirty days are up, discussion posts must be sent to news:news.announce.newgroups (if NNTP to this group does not work for particular people they may email newgroups@isc.org ) and it is allowed for these posts to be sent to other news groups simultaneously. The mandatory newsgroup is moderated (therefore posts may take some time to appear) and one should not post the same message to news:news.announce.newgroups and e.g. news:comp.lang.ada as separate posts ... they are to be crossposted simultaneously which would delay appearance on the unmoderated groups too. After discussion if the proposal is still going ahead there would be a Call For Votes (CFV). Voting should take 21-31 days. Voting is only via email. So the process will take at least about two months. See "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" from news:news.announce.newgroups etc. (e.g. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl1012195284d&hl=en&rnum=84&selm=nan.962619304.25162%40isc.org ) and "Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion" from news:news.answers etc. (e.g. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=2&selm=6cv4qi%24cf3%241%40news.ncal.verio.com ) and so on. A fairly recent botched RFD is "RFD comp.os.ose" (see criticisms from people who would not have used the group anyway at http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=82eaa443.0106071629.5239414e%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dproposed%2Bnewsgroup%2Bgroup:comp.realtime%26hl%3Den%26as_qdr%3Dy%26rnum%3D1%26selm%3D82eaa443.0106071629.5239414e%2540posting.google.com ) and a fairly recent RFD which actually yielded discussion is "RFD: comp.software.patterns" which is archived at http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=9lba0p%24jv1%241%40panix2.panix.com&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fas_oq%3Dcomp%26as_ugroup%3Dnews.groups%26as_usubject%3DRFD%26as_drrb%3Dq%26as_qdr%3Dm and has been followed by a CFV: "CFV: comp.software.patterns" at news:1000139646.12349@isc.org and http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=news.groups&selm=1000139646.12349%40isc.org