From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ec3b1a84cab8fc8a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-07 01:56:35 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!128.39.3.168!uninett.no!ntnu.no!not-for-mail From: randhol+abuse@pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: References: <3B970152.4AC6C6E3@PublicPropertySoftware.com> <3B9795E1.54B12E70@worldnet.att.net> <9n882d$rsh$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B97C5D4.2AFBAEDF@san.rr.com> <3B97EEC5.B9109D9F@san.rr.com> <3B98227B.EEFA4336@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no X-Trace: tyfon.itea.ntnu.no 999852994 16767 129.241.83.82 (7 Sep 2001 08:56:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@itea.ntnu.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:56:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.1 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12872 Date: 2001-09-07T08:56:34+00:00 List-Id: On Fri, 07 Sep 2001 01:27:07 GMT, James Rogers wrote: > It is clear that CO2, in the absence of other factors, does lead to > increased temperatures. It is not clear just how water vapor > interacts with CO2 levels. Some models simply assume no interaction. Also the sun seems to be contributing more energy to the earth now. > Those models are clearly over simplified. Some models show that > water vapor and CO2 work to balance the temperature of the Earth. > As CO2 levels increase they cause more evaporation from the oceans. > This in turn results in more clouds, rain, and severe storms, which > tend to cool the atmosphere. The increased rains also tend to dissolve > large quantities of CO2 as carbonates. Those carbonates react with > rocks and soils, creating carbonate salts, which removes CO2 from > the atmosphere. Yes, you get H2CO3, HCO3- and CO32-. The latter can react with say Mg2+, Ca2+, Sr2+ etc to form carbonate salts. The more basic the solution is the more CO32- you have. The more CO2 you have in your water the more acidic it is (so less CO32-). Anyhow this will not be a big effect on CO2. Another problem is that a huge amount of CO2 is dissolved the ocean. If one gets a hotter earth the tempereature in the sea would rise and CO2 will be released (as water dissolves more gas at lower temperatures) into the atmosphere. But this if off topic. I'll stop now. What I would rather see is that they make a good climat model in Ada than Ada in NMD :-) Preben Randhol