From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1158e3,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gid1158e3,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-13 07:14:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!news.ksw.feedmania.org!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!sea-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: ewill@lexideb.athghost7038suus.net (The Ghost In The Machine) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,ccomp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software References: <9g5ipg$roq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g614i$at4$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g840k$qjt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <40gfitgrvd8cgu27r3vfib6eptmapb3pfl@4ax.com> <9g8lrk$37c$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3b6f54c1$1$fuzhry$mr2ice@va.news.verio.net> Followup-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:14:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.180.70.154 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: sea-read.news.verio.net 997712085 63.180.70.154 (Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:14:45 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:14:45 GMT Organization: Verio Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11848 comp.lang.java.programmer:89186 comp.lang.pl1:1292 comp.lang.vrml:4256 comp.lang.java.advocacy:26421 Date: 2001-08-13T14:14:45+00:00 List-Id: Followups restricted to the newsgroup I actually read. :-) In comp.lang.java.advocacy, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote on Mon, 06 Aug 2001 22:38:56 -0400 <3b6f54c1$1$fuzhry$mr2ice@va.news.verio.net>: >In , on 08/07/2001 > at 01:08 AM, ewill@lexideb.athghost7038suus.net (The Ghost In The >Machine) said: > >>The FSF license is inherently viral. > >True. But so is micro$soft's license, in a much more onerous fashion. Agreed in part. :-) And at least the FSF GPL license says so. Microsoft is insidious. > >>[2] The source code of the GPL portion must be available on a >> machine-readable medium to anyone who is sold the derived work. > >AFAIK you only need to distribute the source for the object code you >distribute. I'm not sure what you mean by GPL portion, since you must >license the modified version under the GPL if you distribute it. The GPL portion is the portion licensed under the GPL, as opposed to the portion of the proprietary package happening to use it. > >>[3] If your work can be shown to be a derived work of the GPLed >> software, then the entire work must be published under the GPL. > >Note that the existence of the LGPL makes this less stringent than it >sounds. Only if the library actually uses it. :-) [.sigsnip] -- ewill@aimnet.com -- insert random misquote here EAC code #191 32d:06h:43m actually running Linux. [ ] Check here to always trust monopolistic software.