From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,39e272d357c68416 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: aidan@skinner.demon.co.uk (Aidan Skinner) Subject: Re: Is Apex dead as an environment for Ada & Java? Date: 1999/12/01 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 555497053 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: skinner.demon.co.uk:158.152.76.219 References: <11f733ec.57d88b68@usw-ex0107-042.remarq.com> <384127A5.61431A14@dowie-cs.demon.co.uk> <0a0133f8.3baf10c0@usw-ex0101-001.remarq.com> <81s370$7am$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <0a0133f8.7900d89e@usw-ex0102-015.remarq.com> <3842C457.CBC87C2@hso.link.com> <20c2f050.4d65ccc7@usw-ex0101-003.remarq.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 944084579 nnrp-09:26994 NO-IDENT skinner.demon.co.uk:158.152.76.219 Organization: None User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.7 (UNIX) Reply-To: aidan@skinner.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-12-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:40:56 -0800, jim_snead wrote: >but I need more info to support this claim. Apparently there are >good graphical front ends to CVS, including emacs. The GNU Emacs (I tried XEmacs for a bit, but didn't like it, I don't know how it compares in this regard, it's probably the same) front end to revision control systems is wonderful. It's slightly better for raw RCS than CVS, but there's very little difference visible to the user except you can't undo check ins in CVS with it, but that's to be expected because of the way that CVS works. There's a GNOME front end to CVS (called Pharmacy) available from: http://home.earthlink.net/~nawalker/pharmacy.html I've been using it for a few days now, it's kind of confusing at first but that's because there's practically no documentation and it's still at 0.2.1 It could concievably be integrated with Glade (http://glade.pn.org), the Gtk/GNOME GUI builder which has Ada '95 suppourt, a graphical debugger (eg. DDD) built on top of GDB with the GNAT patches, and the text editor of your choice to provide a complete Free[1] IDE that would run on a modest (by current standards) machine (my p166 with 48Mb of RAM handles it all with only a little discomfort caused by whole screen redraws). - Aidan [1] I think I'll adopt the convention that Free is equivalent to libre and free is equivalent to gratis. -- http://www.skinner.demon.co.uk/aidan/ http://www.gla.ac.uk/Clubs/WebSoc/~9704075s/ "I could always suspend a few hundred accounts and watch what happens"