From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10261c,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10261c,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,4873305131bf4d94 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 10c950,90121986704b5776 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c950,public From: jstevens@samoyed.ftc.nrcs.usda.gov (John Stevens) Subject: Re: ADA and Pascal work, C,C++, and Java are the only lheadaches you need!! Date: 1997/11/06 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 287459129 References: <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> <34566fe9.447229@news.mindspring.com> <345673af.1413708@news.mindspring.com> <3456b9f3.0@news.eznet.net> <3456e71b.3833189@news.mindspring.com> <34591365.7E53@gsg.eds.com> Organization: USDA/NRCS Information Technology Center Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso,comp.lang.pascal.misc Date: 1997-11-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote: >> 2. Pascal and Ada (which is often called a highly enriched Pascal) >> weren't designed as application development vehicles - whereas C/C++ >> were. > >Wrong on both counts. Ada was designed for applications development, and >C was designed to be easily compilable on a small machine. Actually, wrong again. C was designed originally as a systems programming tool (ie, "let's use C to write an OS"). Ada in its first incarnation was designed primarily for use in writing embedded systems. The one huge advantage C++ has over Ada, is that C++ is at least semi-object oriented. Ada isn't. >> Pascal was invented as a teaching tool for structured and module >> problem solving, to show and overcome the faults of weakly typed and >> inherently undisciplined coding languages of the past (e.g. COBOL, >> ForTran, BASIC, assembler, etc.). > >Actually, ALGOL 60 had already done that. But poorly. Pascal was better. >Correct, no one but business, education and government uses it. As someone who has had a quite unreasonable amount of governmental experience, I can assure you that a great deal of C and C++ are used in governmental systems. John S.