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Warren W. Gay VE3WWG <ve3wwg@home.com> wrote:
>> The STL is an inherent part of the C++ Language. I have before me
>> International Standard ISO/IEC 14882 (Programming languages - C++)
>> chapter 17 up to chapter 27 are dedicated to the different
>> libraries that are part of C++. There is no denying they are part
>> of standard C++. (And they are part of what made me choose C++
>> over C btw)
> Pardon me? Are you saying you cannot get a C++ compiler without a
> STL? Don't be silly.

A standard-conforming hosted C++ compiler MUST somehow include the STL.

>> > It is true that unless they did something wacky like make it virtual, the
>> > C++ inline ++ operator is usually cheap.
>> Look, you obviously don't know C++ that well, so please refrain from
>> going into details and trying to pin C++ as a potentially
>> non-optimizeable language on your assumptions which are FALSE.
>> There is no question of virtual dispatch in this case as any
>> junior C++ programmer will be able to tell you.
> You've got attitude... I'll give you that.

If you keep on saying that there is virtual dispatch in this line
of code (we began the discussion with it)

for (std::vector<int>::iterator i=v.begin(); i!=v.end(); ++i)
	...

I will have to keep on correcting you.

> I can see that having a meaningful dialog with you on this subject is
> extremely difficult. I'm on vacation, and this will be my last post
> on this tired thread.

You've been saying this for 4 posts know. It's difficult to let go
of a good thread, isn't it :)

cu bart

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